Imagine that you are sitting in a meeting. Maybe you are thinking that the meeting could go on forever and that you would rather be programming.

Dave and Andy would be thinking about why they were having the meeting, and wondering if there is something else they could do that would take the place of the meeting, and deciding if that something could be automated so that the work of the meeting just happens in the future. Then they would do it.

That is just the way Dave and Andy think. That meeting wasn't something keeping them from programming. It was programming. And it was programming that could be improved.

Andrew Hunt, David Thomas - The pragmatic programmer, From journey man to master